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Catholic responses to the Booklet: “Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze    part 3

A Catholic reply to Protestant “[mis]- Understandings” Part 3

“WHERE Do the Differences Between Catholics and Come From?”

Romans 2: 4-6  “Or do you presume upon the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience? Do you not know that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But by your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed. For he will render to every man according to his works:”

“Many people tell me [quoting Thomas], “you Protestants interpret the Bible one way, and the Catholic Church another.” …”The differences are not really differences of interpretation,  but of authority. For Biblical Protestants,  the authority is the Word of God. A priest summed it up this way: ”You Protestants believe everything that the book say’s’ “

Thomas goes on to make the following additional points.

The Catholics have Their altar of sacrifice in the middle of the sanctuary; the place of honor, and the place for the bible is set off to the side. We Protestants have the Bible center stage, for easy access by the preacher. … Because the Word of God is the most important.

Catholics do hold the Bible as being Divinely Inspired, but hold it on a par with Tradition and Papal and Council pronouncements. He claims “that many points of Tradition are not consistent with what the bible proclaims; But give no examples of this, but I assume he speaks the Marian Issues?

His final statement in this section proclaims: It is at the end of these points where Thomas Pontificates: “that each of us must decide what he will do.”

Sin has three sources: 1. The world we live in and it’s sinful influence; 2. Our “flesh /Passions”; 3. and the Devil. All three have a part in the lack of RIGHT understanding of the Bible.

1. Those around us “naturally” influence our way of thinking [or NOT thinking for ourselves]. Most of us are reluctant to “buck the popular trends” for fear of personal embarrassment, stemming from a lack of understanding and faith in God.

2. Our passions; this time in the form of “Pride”  is one of Satan’s favorite and most utilized tools. “Knowing more than; or knowing better than” God, the Catholic Church, Every Pope and even History, as well as the Bible all  take a lesser place of significance to Protestant secular “logic”.  Our “right to our own opinion” often negates and exceeds the reality of the truth

3. The Devil is Real, active, cunning, duplicitous and builds on all three vehicles to aid God in blocking RIGHT understanding of the Bible. God with His motive and satan with his own reasons. “One’s right” of self interpretation; despite it being clearly denied in the bible itself, is ignored and denied.

2nd. Peter 1: 16-21  “You will do well to pay attention to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation,  because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God.”

Matt.13:9-12 “He who has ears, let him hear." Then the disciples came and said to him, "Why do you speak to them in parables?" And he answered them, "To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given.”  For to him who has will more be given, and he will have abundance; but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away. “

2nd. Peter 3: 14-17  “Therefore, beloved, since you wait for these, be zealous to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace. And count the forbearance of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, beware lest you be carried away with the error of lawless men and lose your own stability

John 5: 37 “And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness to me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen;  and you do not have his word abiding in you, for you do not believe him whom he has sent. You search the scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness to me;  yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life [Speaking of accepting the entire WORD of GOD]. I do not receive glory from men .[Meaning disobedience is rampant!]  But I know that you have not the love of God within you.  I have come in my Father's name, and you do not receive me” [Listen to or Obey Me!]

Our Catholic Catechism # 1849 defines “sin” as follows: Sin is an offense against reason, truth, and right conscience; it is failure in genuine love for God and neighbor caused by a perverse attachment to certain goods. [PRIDE]  It wounds the nature of man and injures human solidarity. It has been defined as "an utterance, a deed, or a desire contrary to the eternal law."

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