Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Protestant Theology & Catholic Doctrines by Patrick J Miron "vs" everyone else!


Protestant Theology & Catholic Doctrines

 Delusional Beliefs of Patrick J Miron

Exposed to cover & discover the Naked Truth“... Roman Catholic responses to the Booklet: “Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze …  Part 9



Patrick J Miron Catholic reply to Protestant  

(read page 44,45 of patrick j miron personal testimony )  

(how to achieve "religious self-righteous" with only a 12 grade roman catholic education)


“[mis]- Understandings” Part 9 




Chapter 8: “On Whom is the Church Founded”

John 5: 21-27 For as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, so also the Son gives life to whom he will. The Father judges no one, but has given all judgment to the Son, that all may honor the Son, even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him. Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes him who sent me, has eternal life; he does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life. "Truly, truly, I say to you, the hour is coming, and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself,  and has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of man.”

The Wise …Hear
The Prudent …Listen
But ONLY the Humble …OBEY and are Saved

2Pet.2: 1 to 3 “But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their licentiousness, and because of them the way of truth will be reviled. And in their greed they will exploit you with false words; from of old their condemnation has not been idle, and their destruction has not been asleep.”  The SHOCKER here is that are MILLIONS of souls who think that they are doing God’s Will; and therefore have stopped seeking “The Singular truth.” LET US PRAY for them.

God always taught belief in only: One God; Only One Set of Faith believes [now entrusted to the Catholic Church ALONE ..Mt. 16:15-19; Mt. 28: 16-20 ..and only One Chosen People; and always just One Chosen people: Today’s Catholic Church. [Which is The Only Christian Faith and Church founded by Christ Himself


 and the ONLY Christian Church in existence for more than ONE THOUSAND YEARS!]

If I am understanding what I’m reading here? Thomas is questioning whether the Catholic Church is founded on Christ or Peter?  The answer of COURSE is that the Catholic Church is Founded BY Jesus Christ, and by HIS OWN CHOICE, on the guided; guarded and protected, Peter and the Apostles. There would be no Christian Faith today were it not for today’s Catholic Church from which all other Christian faiths originate.  


This statement is followed by a weird statement by Patrick j miron

Catholics are thee Original Bible Church and thee Only True Sacramental Church;  


Clearly  [Biblically] founded on and BY Jesus Christ. Catholics have ALWAYS proclaimed salvation By and THROUGH Him ALONE; and it remains Christ OWN Teachings that He  taught, lived and entrusted DIRECTLYY to Peter, the Apostles and those He chooses to follow them,  NOT modified  to suit  the agendas of mortal men; twelve to fifteen hundred years later.


John.10: 16 “And I have other sheep, that are not of this fold; I must bring them also, and they will heed my voice. So there shall be one flock, one shepherd” 



 ED note" this is 2 hundred and 75 years before the "roman catholic church demoniation"

So, that church and catholic church has a different historical meaning then,
 that 
Patrick J miron  

willingly ignores


ignores3rd person singular present of ig·nore (Verb)

Verb:
  1. Refuse to take notice of or acknowledge; disregard intentionally: "he ignored her question".
  2. Fail to consider (something significant): "satellite broadcasting ignores national boundaries".


Formation of denominations

Denominations often form slowly over time for many reasons. Due to historical accidents of geography, culture and influence between different groups, members of a given religion slowly begin to diverge in their views. Over time members of a religion may find that they have developed significantly different views on theology, philosophy, religious pluralism, ethics and religious practices and rituals. Consequently, different denominations may eventually form. In other cases, denominations form very rapidly, either resulting from a split or schism in an existing denomination, or if people share an experience of spiritual revival or spiritual awakening, and choose to form a new denomination based on that new experience or understanding.

Examples



Eph. 2:19-20 “So then you are no longer strangers and sojourners, but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, [SINGULAR] built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone,  in whom the whole structure is joined together and grows into a holy temple in the Lord; [SINGULAR] in whom you also [MUST BE] are built into it for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit.”






Acts.4 :11 to 12 “This is the stone which was rejected by you builders, but which has become the head of the corner. And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved." [JESUS CHRIST!] …

 Patrick j Miron then says :


 AND it must happen in the manner chosen and desired by God. Acts.5: 29 “But Peter and the apostles answered, "We must obey God rather than men.” AND SO MUST WE.


so don't let the Roman Catholic Church confuse you as it has done to Patrick J Miron





 Another opinion
Modern Christians often say:
 

"The Bible tells us that the Bereans checked out what the Apostles taught to make sure that their teachings were Biblical. This tells us that the Bible is all we need. " modern Christians try to use the Bereans to bolster the Renaissance era doctrine of Sola Scriptura ("Bible Only") because the Bereans "searched the scriptures."

Sola Scriptura is an unbiblical doctrine invented in the middle ages and is most commonly defined as,
 


"Scripture: the SOLE infallible rule of faith." Meaning that one's personal interpretation of the Holy Bible is sufficient to the exclusion of the historical teachings and interpretation of Christ' ancient Church.
(Although there is no agreed upon definition of this Protestant only doctrine because Protestantism has no central/final authority to define it for all denominations).
"Click here: If you have been taught that Sola Scriptura or the "Bible Only" theory is taught in the Holy Bible"



Did the Bereans practice Sola Scriptura or "Bible Only" because they "searched the Scriptures?" No, surprisingly they didn't. The answer is no because they accepted "extra-biblical" ideas/doctrines. Case in point is that the messiah, i.e., the Christ, was he the "Jesus of Nazareth," verse the "Jesus living in Antioch" or the "Jesus of Berea" etc. Which Jesus was the Messiah? Only extra-biblical information told them that they had the correct Jesus or that it was a man "named" Jesus at all. The scriptures didn't teach them this. The Apostle Paul did. Thus they "accepted" Paul's NEW revelation to them that "Jesus of Nazareth" was the Messiah, AND more importantly, that this Jesus was "GOD!" The Jews believed (and still do) that the Messiah would just be a man. A mortal. Not the Son of God and the Second person of the Holy Trinity. In fact the idea OF a Trinity is another extrabiblcial refelation taught to the Bereans (and the Thessolionions). These are three NEW revelations not believed by the Jews of ancient Palestine. Nor even the Jews of today.
It was only through the teachings of Christ's Church that they received these revelations. When they "searched the scriptures," they found the former not there and the second two revealed to them only through Paul's teachings. It was only through the teachings of Christ's Church that they came to realized the truth in them. "Sola Scriptura" or the "Bible Alone" idea excludes the teaching authority of Christ's Church, and unbiblically, (see 2 Peter 1:20) leaves interpretation of the very Word of GOD up to each and every individual. If the Berean's had embraced this this idea, it would have left them believing (through their personal readings of the OT and a rejection of the teachings of Christ's Church) , that Christ was NOT God when the OT Scriptures actually proved he was. Hence the teaching authority of Christ's Church is again proved to be essential in echoing the Words and intent of our Lord Jesus Christ. A Biblical example of the guidance needed and afforded by Christ's Church is found in the Book of Acts: The Holy Scriptures tell us the function of Christ’s Church is to teach and guide Christ’s flock:
“ Philip ran up and heard him [an Ethiopian eunuch] reading Isaiah the prophet, and said, "Do you understand what you are reading?"
31And he said, "Well, how could I, unless someone guides me?" And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.”  Acts 8: 30-31
  The purpose of Christ's Church is to teach and guide. Just as Our Lord told us commanded His Church to do in his last words of the Gospel of Matthew:


"Teach them to observe all I have taught you and behold I am with you always until the end of the world"
Math 28:20.
(
Since his disciples would not live forever, this promise is to his Church he commissioned in Matt 16:16-19.)
Did the Bereans embraced a primitive form of Sola Scriptura, or Bible Only? Absolutely not, and fortunately they didn't. But who did?
 


The real believers of Sola Scriptura (if it were to exist in apostolic times), were the hard headed Thessalonians, who REJECTED St. Paul's message. (Acts 17).

 For Scripture tells us that they ALSO "searched the OT Scriptures" (as did the Bereans), only they found Paul's message wanting for their interpretation of the OT Scriptures (and their rejection of the guidance offered by Christ's Church) failed to point to Jesus "of Nazareth" as the Messiah, it failed to instruct them on the Holy Trinity and it failed to lead them to the belief that this Messiah was GOD!
  
While Apollos was at Corinth, Paul took the road through the interior and arrived at Ephesus. There he found some disciples 2 and asked them,  
"Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed?"       They answered, "No, we have not even heard that there is a Holy Spirit." Acts 19: 1-2


Read the chapter again my friend. Regardless of what your pastor has taught you, the Bereans embraced extra-biblical ideas/doctrines and accepted the guidance and teachings of Christ's Church over their personal interpretations of Scripture. This renders Sola Scriptura or the unbiblcial "Bible ONLY" theory, null and void because Sola Scriptura rejects the teachings of Christ's Church as authoritative. Why would Christ start His Church if He would allow you to reject it?


The Bereans upheld the words of the Apostle Paul when he said:
"So then, brethren, stand firm and hold to the traditions which you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us." 2 Thessalonians 2:15



 
 Patrick J miron "vs" Thomas F. Heinze


1. To have a Biblical basis for the papacy, the Roman Catholic Church neglects the numerous passages such as the one above that clearly teach that Christ is the head and the foundation, and quotes a short part of a passage of Matthews Gospel.




They neglect to realize that EVEN IF THE CHURCH WERE FOUNDED ON PETER, THERE IS NOTHING IN THIS PASSAGE TO INFER THAT THIS STATUS WAS PASSED ON TO THE POPES.” End Quote

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